Nov. 20, 2024

25: Prediabetes? Eat this.

25: Prediabetes? Eat this.

Megan and Danna discuss the crucial role of diet in managing prediabetes and type 2 diabetes.

Focusing on Diabetes Awareness Month, they explore how different foods impact blood sugar levels, the importance of balanced meals, and provide practical tips on what to eat and what to avoid.

Visit https://sofrickinhealthy.com/episodes/prediabetes-diet more info.

Episodes Referenced

11: The Skinny on FAT, Live Episode

13: The Truth About OLIVE OIL: A Conversation with an Olive Oil Sommelier ft. Elia Fuster Rius, L’Atelier des Saisons

23: The Simple Science of Keto Explained ft. Ben Nordemann

24: Prediabetes 101

Chapters

00:00 Introduction

04:01 Why Blood Sugar Balance Matters

18:11 Building a Prediabetes Friendly Plate

26:12 Snack Ideas

29:48 Mythbusting Minute

32:01 Listner Q&A

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00:00 - Introduction

04:01 - Why Blood Sugar Balance Matters

18:11 - Building a Prediabetes Friendly Plate

26:12 - Snack Ideas

29:48 - Mythbusting Minute

32:01 - Listner Q&A

Megan

Hey, Megan.

Megan

Welcome back, everyone, to the so Freaking Healthy podcast.

Donna

Hey, Donna.

Donna

If you're just joining us, listener, we are in the middle of our Diabetes Awareness Month series where we are breaking down, break it down, break it down.

Donna

Pre diabetes and type 2 diabetes.

Donna

And today we are going to talk about one of the most important parts of managing these diseases or the precursor to diseased.

Donna

And that is what you put in your mouth hole, otherwise known as your diet.

Megan

Yes, and I'm super excited for this one because there is so much we can do with food to support our health.

Megan

As everyone knows, I'm a total geek for that shit, because food.

Megan

So, Megan, you're the expert here.

Megan

Tell us why diet is such a big deal when it comes to prediabetes.

Donna

Yes, I am an expert in the room because I know more than you, but I am not a doctor.

Donna

So I will say that at the beginning of every episode, I should call.

Megan

You Dr.

Megan

Megan just to fuck with you.

Donna

I'm also not a registered dietitian, a registered nutritionist, or a registered nurse, or diabetes educator, none of those things.

Donna

I just spent a lot of time in the diabetes industry, so I do know a lot and I am passionate about it.

Donna

So to your question, why is diet such a big deal when it comes to pre diabetes?

Donna

Well, because this is one of the main things that affects your sugar levels.

Donna

There are some other things.

Donna

Stress, which is not food related, but stress.

Donna

Whether it is a positive or negative stress, it doesn't matter.

Donna

Could be if you do a hiit workout, your body's pumping sugar back into your blood to help you do your hiit workout or this high intensity workout.

Donna

It's the same as if you get called into the manager's office and get scolded for fucking something up royally.

Donna

That's also stress and that's also your body putting more sugar back in your blood so you can get the fuck out of dodge and run away from whatever it is that's stressing you.

Donna

But food is the thing that you have the most control over, hopefully.

Donna

I mean, there are people who do not have as much control over their diet, but for most people, you do have control what you put into your mouth, AKA food.

Donna

And the good news is that if you eat the right foods, and I'm putting right in air quotes now, I did it in air quotes.

Donna

You eat the right foods that can help you balance your blood sugar naturally.

Donna

I hate using the word right food.

Donna

We talked about this before.

Donna

Donna and I talked about it, like overgeneralization of right and Wrong things for people.

Donna

So I'm using that loosely.

Donna

There are certain types of foods that will help you keep your energy and help you prevent pre diabetes from turning into type 2 diabetes.

Donna

And if you add more of those into your diet and take away other shit, then you're better for it.

Megan

Great.

Megan

So today we'll break down which foods can help keep blood sugar balanced and what to avoid.

Megan

Plus we'll share some easy meals and snack ideas along the way.

Donna

Hold on, Donna.

Donna

I do need to preface this with saying that, Donna, you are a fucking amazing health coach and you help a lot of people with food.

Donna

So I feel like I'm not the only expert here.

Donna

I feel like this is an equally experted conversation and maybe even you more so because you've actually coached more people than I have.

Donna

So I do want to make sure to plug you there because you're awesome.

Megan

Thank you.

Megan

I know, I know.

Megan

Keep going.

Megan

No, thank you, Megan.

Megan

That is true.

Megan

It is true.

Megan

I do work with quite a few people who deal with diabetes or pre diabetes.

Megan

But as Megan mentioned, we're not doctors.

Megan

We are just experts in being coaches.

Megan

And I love nutrition, so I'll definitely plug in a few things here and there.

Megan

But honestly, I just want to hear from you because I'm sitting back relaxing and getting more education, so I'm really enjoying this.

Donna

Good, good, good.

Megan

Okay, so let's start with the basics.

Megan

What is actually happening in our body when we eat something that affects our blood sugar?

Donna

Okay, so that's good.

Donna

And I really like the way you worded this question, because not all food affects your blood sugar.

Donna

So if you eat something that is pure protein or pure fat, your blood sugar is not going to rise.

Donna

Do you, Donna, know why protein and fat don't affect your blood sugar?

Megan

They don't have carbs.

Donna

Yeah, exactly.

Megan

My gutta was right.

Megan

Now my glucose level went up just because you stressed me.

Donna

Right.

Donna

Okay.

Donna

So her question was originally, what's happening in our bodies when we eat something that affects our blood sugar?

Donna

So things that affect your blood sugar are anything with carbs.

Donna

And this can be any kind of carb starch, a resistant starch, a good carb, bad carb, who knows what carb.

Donna

It doesn't matter because carbs are what break down into glucose.

Donna

That's.

Donna

That's basically it.

Donna

So when we eat anything with a carbohydrate in it, the body takes that carbohydrate with enzymes and it breaks it down into glucose, which is the smallest form of sugar molecule that the body wants you might hear that there's sucrose, fructose, dextrose, all these different oses, and maltose, lactose.

Donna

These are all sugars, but they're all different chemical formulas of sugar.

Donna

And they all need to be broken down into the format that the body can absorb and use, which is glucose.

Donna

Now, normally your pancreas, which is a tiny little organ, releases insulin.

Donna

So your body knows, actually, this is a fun fact that some people don't even realize is when you look at food or like when you're looking at the menu and your brain says, I'm gonna eat soon, your body's already producing insulin.

Megan

You know, am I not diabetic?

Megan

I'm constantly thinking of food, drooling over, just thinking lunch while eating breakfast.

Donna

I mean, that's a normal human process.

Donna

Like, that's normal.

Donna

It doesn't mean anything's wrong with you.

Donna

That's.

Donna

That is your body priming and pumping the system to do exactly what it's supposed to do.

Donna

So insulin is not the enemy.

Donna

Carbs are not the enemy.

Donna

Right.

Donna

There is no enemies here.

Donna

It is how we're using carbs that potentially can cause problems with your metabolism or called a metabolic disease.

Donna

Insulin resistance.

Donna

Those are all the words that you'll hear in conjunction with this.

Donna

But it's just like when you think of something good to eat and your mouth starts to saliva, right?

Megan

Just the word food, Just the word food does it for me.

Megan

I'm like, food like a puddle of effect.

Donna

It is.

Donna

No, exactly.

Donna

So when you eat and you've chewed the food and it goes into your stomach and the body starts to break down into glucose, there's insulin already in the bloodstream to grab it and move it into the cells and use it for energy.

Donna

That's what it does.

Donna

But when you have prediabetes or on your way to prediabetes, somewhere in that zone.

Donna

Not normal anymore.

Donna

Uh, if you haven't listened to the first episode, when we talk more about prediabetes 101, go take a listen to that where we talk more about what does prediabetes mean.

Donna

So when you're in this zone of prediabetes, your insulin or your body's response to the insulin is not as strong to move the sugar out of your blood.

Donna

And this is the beginning of metabolic disease.

Donna

This is the beginning of insulin resistance.

Donna

Your body is resistant to the insulin it's producing and therefore you have higher sugar in your blood, which causes all kinds of blood related issues.

Megan

What are blood related issues?

Donna

Well, so for Example, further down the line, when you have type 2 diabetes, and if you don't manage it with either medication or lifestyle, you can have low circulation to the feet and to the finger.

Donna

It's basically to your extremities, so you can start to lose sensation, you can have your feet amputated.

Donna

Your retina in your eye is, can be damaged because of the blood.

Donna

So this is what I mean by a blood illness.

Donna

It's actually attacking other parts of your body that you wouldn't think is relevant.

Donna

And this is why.

Donna

Those are the most common physical symptoms that people have.

Donna

And yeah, I think we kind of went down a turn there, but I feel like that's actually pretty important.

Donna

That's why it's important that your sugar not stay too high in your blood for too long.

Megan

Right?

Megan

No, that was super interesting, actually.

Megan

I never actually knew why there was that risk of losing a limb.

Megan

My dad, who has had diabetes for almost 40 years, if he would get wounded in his foot or something like that, that was like a month in the hospital with antibiotics and, you know, it was just a complete shit show just because of a little cut on his foot that he didn't even feel and got infected.

Megan

Okay, so when blood sugar stays up too high over time, that's when issues actually start to creep in.

Megan

Is that right?

Donna

Right.

Donna

Which is why the diagnosis of prediabetes is important, because the body's already exhibiting these signs that the blood sugar's too high for too long, but it's not to the point where it's causing major damage to your body.

Donna

Again, that's inflammation, fatigue, damage to your blood vessels, to your nerves because of all the things I just said.

Donna

So that's why the goal is to keep your blood sugar steady.

Donna

So we want to see like a rolling, undulated hill.

Donna

If you're looking at a graph of blood sugar over time, you don't want alpine peaks or roller coaster peaks of, of blood sugar.

Donna

And the way we do that as we're talking about the diet is fiber rich foods, lean proteins, and healthy fats.

Donna

All three of these things take the body longer to process and therefore keep your blood sugar even if you eat them with carbs, I feel like that's, that's the most important thing to note here.

Donna

This does not mean you have to have a low carb diet.

Donna

I think we're going to get into that in a minute.

Donna

But when you eat those foods in conjunction with carbs or before carbs, then your body will react differently to the carbs because all these Other things are slowing down your digestion.

Megan

Okay, so this was super important.

Megan

I want to highlight that because I think that's something that a lot of people are not really aware of.

Megan

What Megan just mentioned was the order in which you eat the food that is on your plate plays a big role as well as what is on your plate.

Megan

So if you're having your vegetables and your protein first, and then when you go for seconds, you add your pasta or rice or potatoes, whatever starch slash carb, you decide to have it.

Megan

If you do that can be on your seconds, and.

Megan

And you can still enjoy it.

Megan

The glucose will not go up like a mountain peak because you had it first, but rather it's now being slowed down from all the fibers and the protein that you've just enjoyed.

Megan

Okay, Exactly.

Megan

Great.

Megan

And we're not saying no carb ever, but rather which carb, Right?

Donna

Yeah.

Donna

Which carbs and how you eat them.

Donna

There's a lot of great evidence out there, anecdotal evidence from people on TikTok who show you their blood glucose because they have a cgm, a continuous glucose monitoring system.

Donna

So you can go on TikTok and see all this anecdotal evidence of people eating a meal in one way and showing you their blood sugar curve and then eating the meal in a different order, and then you can see their blood sugar curve.

Donna

So you can go out and see a lot of those.

Donna

There are also studies, obviously, that also highlight this, which is why it's become kind of a really great first way to begin to tackle the idea of lifestyle change, because you don't actually have to change what you eat.

Donna

You just change the order of which you eat it.

Donna

I think the.

Donna

The easiest thing is, or let's say the most noticeable thing is when you sit down at a restaurant and there is a basket of bread or breadsticks in front of you.

Donna

Like, who doesn't want to eat that?

Donna

It's bread.

Donna

It's wonderful.

Donna

But that is exactly the wrong thing to start with.

Donna

If you can ask your server to not bring you the bread and say, can we have the bread at the end of the meal?

Donna

Right.

Donna

So if you still want this wonderfully buttery carby.

Donna

Delicious.

Megan

Yeah.

Donna

You can basically have it as your dessert if you want.

Donna

And the other thing that you can easily do is to add a little bit of vinegar in before you start your meal, which is in most vinaigrettes and on a salad.

Donna

Right.

Donna

So if you start your meal with a small green salad with a vinaigrette, I mean, Bada bing, bada boom.

Donna

Like, that's a.

Donna

That's a super easy win.

Donna

And then you.

Megan

It is super easy because you have the fibers, you have the fats, and you have the vinegar in there.

Megan

So you're kind of covering all grounds with a nice, happy salad.

Donna

Yeah.

Donna

And we mentioned it in the last episode.

Donna

Don't take things away.

Donna

Try to crowd out.

Donna

So if you reimagine your dinner, if you start with the salad, then you have your main.

Donna

Whatever that is, but make sure it's protein.

Donna

Maybe you have some other vegetables.

Donna

And then you say, if I'm still hungry, then I have that piece of bread at the end.

Donna

Or maybe you no longer want the piece of bread, but maybe you want a piece of cake.

Donna

Who cares?

Donna

Doesn't matter.

Donna

As long as you had it at the end.

Donna

And if you've had all these wonderful foods beforehand, whole foods with protein and fat and high fiber, you probably are not going to fit that in anyway at the end.

Donna

I mean, you could force it in.

Donna

I know.

Megan

Yes, of course.

Donna

Easily.

Donna

You can always sneak it in.

Donna

But, you know, maybe you don't need five breadsticks.

Donna

Then maybe you just need one breadstick because you just really want the mouthfeel and the wonderful sensation of eating bread.

Donna

Great.

Donna

Do it right.

Donna

You don't have to deny yourself the bread.

Donna

Just don't eat it at the beginning of the meal and set your stomach up for instant carb overload.

Megan

I actually heard something really interesting lately, which is they actually give us bread in a restaurant at the beginning of the meal.

Megan

Because by the time you finish your meal, even if you're not worried about pre diabetes, and even if you're not worried about whatever your sugar levels.

Megan

But you do know that maybe after this whole meal, eating a whole cheesecake is a little bit overdoing it, but you're still gonna reach out for it.

Megan

Because when you ate the bread and by the time you finished the meal, now your glucose level is dropped again, where you're going, like, I need something sweet.

Megan

So the restaurants are kind of tricking us into now wanting the dessert and getting the dessert, because we have had the bread and that the glucose peaked, and now it's kind of crashing.

Megan

And now we're like, I need something sweet.

Megan

I'm tired, and I need to drive home.

Megan

So that is one thing.

Megan

And the second thing was you don't have to have dessert with every meal.

Megan

But when you feel like having dessert, it is important to think about it right after you're done with your meal, because of your glucose levels rather than going, I'm not going to eat it now, I'm going to eat it in two hours now your stomach is empty and that glucose is going to write up.

Donna

Yeah, that's a.

Donna

It's a real perfect point.

Donna

At least over here in Europe, we can buy CGM from the Internet from our pharmacist.

Donna

We don't need a prescription for it.

Donna

And there are several apps out there now to help people who just want to optimize their health and realize that blood sugar is a way to optimize their health.

Donna

So I'm not even talking about people who have pre diabetes.

Donna

They just want people who are just more interested in understanding how what they eat impacts them.

Donna

And I did that experiment.

Donna

I had a cookie and I was fasting and I had that cookie and immediately my blood sugar goes up.

Donna

Right.

Donna

And usually you're kind of measuring it from what it.

Donna

Where it was to where the peak was to kind of understand how steep that peak was.

Donna

And this is going to happen in like the first 30 minutes after you eat your cookie.

Donna

Then I had the same cookie, but after eating a meal and it was like no reaction whatsoever.

Donna

I was shocked.

Donna

I.

Donna

Cause I thought it would at least go up a bit.

Donna

But no, because I had it right after I got done eating all this other food.

Donna

And like you just said, not two.

Megan

Hours later, it makes a huge difference.

Megan

And it is really important to say, again, we're not saying eat a cookie or eat a cake every single.

Megan

After every single meal, but just eat it after the meal because it'll be fine.

Megan

No, of course, course you're still putting sugar in your body.

Megan

Of course you're still maybe putting things that are not necessarily ideal for your health.

Megan

But we're also saying don't never have it.

Megan

Right.

Megan

If you want to have it, then make sure to have it at the right time where your body is able to deal with it with less damage done.

Donna

Yeah.

Donna

And to just come on top of that.

Donna

Don't beat yourself up about it.

Donna

If you go, oh, shoot, I had that piece of bread before my meal.

Donna

I didn't do what I was supposed to do.

Donna

And now you're going to beat yourself up about it.

Donna

Well, that's not good for your mental health either.

Donna

I mean.

Donna

No.

Megan

And you're more likely to go and have emotional.

Megan

Now eat emotionally because you're feeling terrible about what.

Megan

Which is nonsense.

Donna

No, that's true.

Donna

So I think it's.

Donna

Every meal is an experiment.

Donna

Every meal is an opportunity for you to make those Decisions.

Donna

And then you're like, listen, today is my birthday.

Donna

Screw it.

Donna

I don't give a shit how it's going to go.

Donna

I just want to eat what I want to eat.

Donna

I don't want to think about it.

Donna

Do it, you know?

Donna

But that's where we come back to like, whatever you do most days matters.

Donna

Right.

Donna

80, 20.

Donna

This was still kind of like why blood sugar balance matters.

Megan

And I think we got off the.

Donna

Topic a little bit there.

Donna

But just to wrap it up, the whole point is that the blood sugar balance matters because your body will digest certain foods more slowly and which helps you avoid those blood sugar spikes.

Donna

I feel like that's a good wrap up for this topic.

Donna

Perfect.

Megan

So I'll edit everything out and I'll.

Megan

I'll just leave that.

Megan

All of our rambles.

Megan

We should change our name, the podcast name, to like two Bitches rambling on.

Megan

Okay, I want to talk a little bit more about specifics.

Megan

What are some superstar foods for pre diabetes, or rather for like a pre diabetes friendly plate.

Donna

That's a good way to say it, too.

Donna

So let's start with veggies.

Donna

Number one, if you're not eating any veggies, just start eating any vegetable.

Donna

Right.

Donna

If vegetables are not normally part of your routine.

Donna

And I'm also talking to you parents with children because I have so many friends with kids and they don't make their children eat vegetables, which I think is, in the long term, a huge disservice to children.

Donna

There are ways of helping your kids enjoy vegetables.

Donna

One is helping them.

Donna

And you know this, having them help prepare it is one of the ways that they are more likely to eat it.

Donna

So I'm not going to say more about that because I don't have.

Donna

No, let's do a whole.

Megan

We can do a whole episode on that.

Megan

Seriously, I can talk about that for seven hours.

Donna

Yeah, because you did the whole like kids eating courses and stuff.

Donna

That's kind of how you got started in your whole health coaching was kids eating and healthy foods for kids and yeah, let's do that.

Donna

Let's have a whole episode.

Donna

Okay.

Donna

But just start eating some vegetables.

Donna

Pick your favorite.

Donna

If you have no idea what your favorite is, just buy a little bit of everything, give it a try, go online, try to find the best way to eat it.

Donna

But most vegetables, I mean, a lot of them, you just cut them up with a little bit of butter or olive oil in a pan and saute them with some salt and pepper.

Donna

You don't need more than that.

Donna

Steaming them pretty Healthy, but not the most flavorful.

Donna

Little boring.

Donna

Roasting.

Donna

Roasting best.

Donna

I mean, the best.

Donna

My favorite and the easiest because you just cut it up again, a little bit of olive oil, a little bit of salt, pepper, and throw it in the oven.

Donna

Oh, my God.

Donna

But the number one thing that's going to help you the most are leafy green vegetables, which normally you wouldn't necessarily put all of the leafy greens in the oven, but leafy greens, like spinach, you can have them fresh with like a spinach salad or you can cook them down.

Donna

Kale is a superstar.

Donna

I just got a bunch of kale in my vegetable subscription basket last week and I'm just like, oh, shit, this is a lot of kale.

Megan

What am I going to do?

Donna

I didn't want to do chips.

Donna

I wanted to eat it differently than chips because that would have been a shit ton and I wouldn't have been able to eat them all.

Donna

But I found a kale curry recipe that I was very skeptical about, but I did it anyway.

Donna

It is so good.

Donna

I mean, if you don't know what you do to do with vegetables and you like Indian food, curry it.

Donna

I think that's going to be like my new slogan, curry it.

Megan

Honestly, I don't think anyone has an excuse nowadays.

Megan

There are literally endless recipes online.

Megan

Just go on Pinterest, look something up.

Megan

You will find millions of recipes for what you're looking for.

Megan

Just one disclaimer or one kind of warning.

Megan

With cake kale, it really is super fibrous and we're not meant to eat it raw as it is.

Megan

If you are looking to make a salad with kale, I recommend massaging it.

Megan

But, like, massaging it.

Megan

Like, if you would really.

Megan

You're really angry at your husband and he's asking for like a neck massage.

Megan

That's the massage you want to do.

Megan

Like, really kind of kill it with salt and lemon juice and that breaks it down.

Megan

It helps the enzymes break down and actually make it a lot more digestible.

Donna

I did that with the kale even before I cooked it, because even cooking it wasn't enough.

Donna

So I recommend massaging it regardless of what you're doing.

Donna

So cruciferous vegetables like broccoli and cauliflower, also super good.

Donna

If you don't like it, think about putting it in, like, a soup format.

Donna

This is how I get my husband to eat broccoli, sweet potatoes.

Donna

You could also, you know, stuff like potatoes.

Donna

A lot of people try to stay away from potatoes, but if you boil some potatoes and then cool them down and then eat them.

Donna

Like it's got a different impact on your blood sugar.

Donna

So greens, I mean, that's the bottom line.

Donna

If you don't have any greens, get some greens.

Megan

Awesome.

Megan

Okay, so load up on veggies, load up on greens.

Megan

You're not gonna hear me complaining about that.

Megan

What about proteins?

Donna

Right?

Donna

So not all proteins are created equally.

Donna

So animal proteins, you're gonna wanna stick with some lean ones like chicken and fish and eggs.

Donna

But be careful when it comes to any kind of processed meat.

Donna

Most of them have some kind of glucose or corn syrup added to them, which is shocking.

Donna

And I, I'm just like, all I want is a piece of sausage without glucose in it.

Donna

Please, can I just.

Megan

It's near impossible to find.

Donna

It is near impossible.

Donna

So like a whole chicken, usually they don't add any glucose to a chicken.

Donna

Usually it's more pork and beef related products that they add glucose to.

Donna

So chicken is usually pretty safe.

Donna

Fish, you're not going to find glucose added to fish.

Donna

So that makes it pretty safe.

Donna

And eggs, you have plant based proteins like beans and lentils, super great for protein.

Donna

And remember, the reason we want protein is because it just takes longer for you to digest that which helps with your blood sugar.

Donna

And then healthy fats, which are things like avocados, nuts, olives, seeds, olive oil, are all considered healthy fats.

Donna

That doesn't mean you need to go bonkers on the fat.

Donna

It just means that if you're going to choose a fat, try to choose one that's not inflammatory like sunflower or canola oil or high processed.

Donna

Even olive oil that says it's for high heat.

Donna

Do not do that.

Donna

That shit is worse for you than all the other oils because it's super high processed.

Donna

Go listen to our fat episode.

Donna

In our early days, we did a whole episode on fats and the olive oil episode.

Donna

Do the olive oil episode.

Donna

Do.

Megan

Yeah, I was going to say just, just listen to all of our episodes, guys.

Donna

Like what the hell?

Megan

Why are you listening to us now?

Megan

Just go back.

Megan

Okay, so we're saying again, loads of greens, loads of veggies.

Megan

We're talking about really good proteins, really good fats.

Megan

That to me already sounds like an ideal plate.

Megan

What about carbs?

Donna

Yeah, I mean, do carbs do them?

Donna

Why not?

Donna

I mean, so we should say you're, you don't need carbs in your plate like you do protein and fat.

Donna

Your body does not make fat and protein.

Donna

Like it can make carbohydrates for you to use.

Donna

And we have A another episode on keto by Ben Nordeman, who's our keto guy.

Donna

And he explains a lot more about what your body needs and what your body doesn't need.

Donna

But no, I mean, if you want to eat carbs, eat carbs, but eat the right kind.

Donna

That's going.

Donna

The right kind again in quotes.

Donna

Eat, let's say eat the kind of carbs that are going to do better for your body.

Donna

So these are whole grains.

Donna

I love whole brown rice.

Donna

You just have to cook it a lot longer.

Donna

But it's gorgeous.

Donna

It's so chewy and wonderful oats, quinoa.

Donna

These are things.

Donna

By the way, couscous is not.

Donna

Couscous is just pasta.

Megan

That's tiny, tiny pasta.

Donna

But again, balance them right.

Donna

If you have a large piece of meat, chicken breast or something, some vegetables, maybe you have a half a cup of quinoa, you don't need a lot to give kind of that chewy texture that you might want to get from eating carbs.

Donna

And try to make sure you focus on those complex carbs, which means again, digesting slowly.

Donna

And they don't spike your blood sugar like refined carbs do.

Donna

Like a piece of white bread or cookie or anything with sugar in it.

Donna

Right.

Megan

I mean, and it is important to say that lentils, legumes are also a carb.

Megan

Right.

Megan

They're high in protein, but they are also a carb.

Megan

So adding a bit more, as you said, a little bit of quinoa just to pimp it up, you're still going to get a good amount of carbs, but you're getting more fibers and more protein in the mix because quinoa is also a perfect protein.

Donna

Yeah.

Megan

Okay.

Megan

So, you know, you're going to get this question from me because I'm always thinking about food as we already covered and especially I think of food.

Megan

And you know this because you've met me outside the house.

Megan

I'm thinking about it when I'm out and about, have a whole backpack full of food.

Megan

What are your favorite quick blood sugar friendly snacks ideas?

Donna

Super easy Greek yogurt is a good one.

Donna

Even if you have a Greek yogurt with a little bit of sugar added, like a honey or figs or something like that, the amount of protein and fat is in there.

Donna

Again, you're kind of, you know, combining it with a little bit of sweetness.

Donna

But even just plain Greek yogurt, a little bit of berries or if you have some chia seeds.

Donna

Now, I'm not sure if you'd have that hanging around.

Donna

However, the to go.

Donna

Food industry is hearing all of this and whenever I go to the States, I see little packets of cheese and meat with no crackers.

Donna

The food industry is listening to what the trends are and you are going to find more options to have stuff on the go back to this like a protein bar.

Donna

So let's say you're really hungry.

Donna

You're like, oh, Megan told me I should eat protein.

Donna

This is going to be helpful.

Donna

So a really easy way to understand if it's really truly high protein and reasonable amount of calories is to look at the grams of protein.

Donna

And this is easier in, in Europe because our nutrition labels are all based off 100 grams or 100 milliliters.

Donna

So it's very, very clear.

Donna

So I do know that in the States where you can have all kinds of different serving sizes, this might not be as clear cut effectively if you take the grams of protein.

Donna

So let's say it says, oh, this is 20 grams protein.

Donna

Sounds like a lot of protein, which it is.

Donna

But let's say that that bar is actually 350 calories.

Donna

For that 20 grams of protein, you add a zero at the end of the protein and if the the protein value is close to or higher than the calorie value, then you know that that snack is a reasonable amount of calories and also really actually high protein and not so many carbs.

Donna

You'll see it very clearly on cottage cheese.

Donna

So cottage cheese is a great example of being high protein and low calorie.

Donna

That's why a lot of people eat cottage cheese when they go on a diet because there is a lot of protein in it.

Donna

The other thing I've seen is of course hummus and sliced vegetables.

Donna

This is a great snack because hummus is just beans, beans and olive oil, which is great.

Donna

And of course apple slices with maybe almond butter, peanut butter, whatever kind of nut butter you like.

Donna

Apples have fiber.

Donna

If you are a sweet snack person, then just make sure that you're eating whole fruits, maybe potentially with like an avocado or some nuts or something like that.

Donna

This is going to add that little bit of extra fiber, a little bit of extra fat.

Donna

And that's easy to do when you're on the go.

Donna

If you're out and about need to grab something, grab it.

Donna

But have an idea.

Donna

What's the best thing for you to grab.

Donna

But also just try to take something with you.

Donna

Do you always have snacks with you?

Megan

I always have stuff with me and I love a good apple and almond butter combo with some cinnamon on top.

Megan

Geez, Louise.

Megan

And honestly, don't get this Israeli started on hummus and veg.

Megan

That shit runs through my veins.

Megan

I'm pretty sure, like, tap out.

Donna

Hummus coming out of your Swear.

Donna

I swear.

Megan

They tried to take blood from me, you know, because I'm O negative, but they're like, what the hell is this?

Megan

It's super thick and it's brown.

Megan

So, Megan, the time.

Megan

It is time for our myth busting minute.

Donna

Okay.

Megan

Are you ready?

Donna

Yeah, I'm ready.

Megan

This is one that I hear a lot.

Megan

If I have prediabetes, I need to cut all carbs out.

Megan

True or false?

Donna

I mean, that's a big false because as soon as you cut all carbs out, you're doing some drastic changes and that are not going to be sustainable, period.

Donna

You did not get into the situation by drastically changing your diet.

Donna

Your diet probably got worse over time.

Donna

You're not going to get out of the situation by drastically changing your diet.

Donna

So I definitely don't think that cutting out all carbs is the way to go.

Donna

There are people that do that.

Donna

There are unicorns out there that have the willpower to just say, I'm going to be living keto lifestyle for the rest of my life because it works for me.

Donna

Good.

Donna

Good for them.

Donna

But even then, it's.

Donna

It's healthier to kind of get yourself into a point where you're having good carbs, and then if you still want to reduce them, you can go down further.

Donna

Don't be afraid of carbs, but be mindful of which ones you choose and try new ones that you haven't tried yet that are better for you.

Donna

Experiment with different slower carbs like beans and lentils and things like that.

Megan

So carb lovers unite.

Megan

We're happy.

Megan

Another one.

Megan

Only people who are overweight get prediabetes.

Donna

You know, this is also false.

Donna

I am overweight, and I was nervous.

Donna

I wanted to pay attention to my numbers to make sure I wasn't getting prediabetes.

Donna

So, no, I think it's false.

Donna

Categorically.

Donna

You can be overweight and not have prediabetes.

Donna

You can be diagnosed as pre diabetic and not be overweight, because there are other factors that go into that, like your family hereditary nest.

Donna

So if your mother had gestational diabetes when she was pregnant with you, you're actually more likely to get type 2 diabetes as she is as well, also more likely to get type 2 diabetes.

Donna

So there's a lot of things that are out of your control, but being overweight does not mean that you will have prediabetes.

Donna

And it also is not indicative of you'll never have prediabetes if you're not overweight.

Megan

I think this is important enough to repeat.

Megan

It's not just about the weight.

Megan

There's a lot of factors at play.

Megan

Next section, one of my favorites, we're jumping into some listener questions.

Megan

Okay, so here's one from Imaginary Sarah.

Megan

Thank you, Sarah.

Megan

We love getting questions from you.

Megan

Sarah says, I've been diagnosed with pre diabetes and I want to improve my diet, but I don't have much time to cook.

Megan

Any advice?

Donna

Yeah, I mean, if you eat out a lot, a lot of Indian food is quite healthy because they use a lot of beans and lentils in their dishes and they also a lot of the spices that they use, ginger, garlic, turmeric, these are all natural anti inflammatories that are also really healthy for you.

Donna

If you don't cook at home and you eat out a lot, just try not to eat out with so many fried foods, things that are a little bit healthier.

Donna

If you don't have time to cook because you're too busy or because you're not home very much, take a little bit extra time to think about where you could eat out that would support your pre diabetic diet.

Donna

If you are at home and you just don't like to cook, then there are meal services that cater also to pre diabetics and type 2 diabetics with very balanced meal plans.

Donna

So either a, you get a box with all the ingredients to cook it.

Donna

So you don't have to think, you don't have to shop, you can just cook.

Donna

So that's one way.

Donna

But there are also companies out there that are just, here is a meal, here you go.

Donna

And it is specifically made to help balance your blood sugar.

Donna

Those are actually more expensive ways than just going to the grocery store and buying your own food.

Donna

But everybody's got different lifestyles.

Megan

Okay, thanks Megan.

Megan

That's awesome advice.

Megan

Here's another question from John the Ghost.

Megan

I have a family history of diabetes.

Megan

Does that mean I'll automatically get it?

Donna

So family history does increase your risk, definitely.

Donna

But it doesn't mean there's a guarantee that you're going to get it.

Donna

This is why again, it's so important for parents to have their kids on a balanced diet, not just rice and white pasta when they're young.

Donna

Because what you're eating at those pivotal ages in your life can also impact later on what you like to eat and therefore impact your likelihood you are not necessarily predestined, but if you have the same lifestyle and unfortunately, if you are raised in a family where your parents have type 2 diabetes because of their lifestyle choices, that's how you were raised to eat.

Donna

And so I think it's more about breaking your hereditary habits versus the hereditary genetics because you can outperform your genetics with environmental things.

Megan

Awesome, Megan.

Megan

I think we covered a shit ton today.

Donna

Yeah.

Megan

For everyone listening, remember, small changes like adding more fiber or swapping in whole.

Donna

Grains can go a long way in.

Megan

Managing blood sugar and even reversing prediabetes.

Megan

And there's nothing more empowering than reversing your own prediabetes.

Megan

Come on, let's be real here.

Donna

Yeah.

Donna

So absolutely.

Donna

And if you have prediabetes and you are ready to start doing something about it, which is great.

Donna

I have A program, Prevent T2 program, that was launched just before November.

Donna

It's a podcast, so it is free.

Donna

You can go and listen to it.

Donna

It is the CDC's curriculum.

Donna

It's not my curriculum, so I did not develop it.

Donna

I am just basically formatting this from a instructor led program where you'd have to go somewhere to a clinic or to a hospital to take this program.

Donna

It is now in a format where you can listen to it while you go for your walk, after you have dinner.

Donna

And that is all about lifestyle changes to help specifically designed for people with pre diabetes to help them Prevent developing type 2 diabetes.

Donna

So make sure you check that out.

Donna

The podcast is called Prevent T2 and we'll have a link to that in the show notes as well.

Megan

That sounds amazing, Megan.

Megan

So listeners, if you want to learn more or sign up, head to mybestself fit and this could be a perfect next step if you're ready to make some lasting changes.

Megan

Megan, you seriously slated with the Prevent T2 program.

Megan

How frickin awesome are you?

Donna

I'm totally frickin awesome.

Donna

But I'm also freaking awesome.

Donna

You know, you could tell I actually do love myself.

Donna

I am not a.

Donna

I'm not shy of saying that I feel pretty good about myself.

Donna

But for everybody who's listening, we'll say it once, we'll say it a hundred times.

Donna

Small steps can lead to big results over time.

Donna

So take it one meal at a time, take it one snack at a time, one day at a time.

Donna

Every choice you have is a new opportunity.

Megan

Thanks for tuning in today, everyone.

Megan

Next week we'll dive into medications and treatments for managing type 2 diabetes.

Megan

So if you or someone you know is living with diabetes.

Megan

Be sure to listen in.

Donna

Thanks, everyone.

Donna

Bye.